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welcome dude!

hey whats up dude welcome to the forums

i know i'm so nice because I'm canadian

Not at all, thanks for the welcoming.

Well I'm Glad you're interested in Development only sadly Programming is Jarrett's/Fixer's thing which he exclusively dose.  The only thing that has a shared source is the updater. 

Anyways Welcome to Leaiva and I hope the Programming thing dosen't hinder you decision to try and Join up.

Hello,

Im pretty new to games in dev, but I would like to be a part of this community and learn a bit about making games and programming in general. I want to learn Java and C++ and am just looking for a starting point.

Well the issue with that is you can get different levels with the same rank who would be able to fight each other.  It conflicts with "balanced PVP system" Buffo has put into place.  Personally I think you should be able to attack anyone you want.  (1) with their permission of that player and (2) the farther you venture out in the pvp zones the higher the level of players could attack you.  Both borrowed Ideas lol

I do like the rank idea.  Something could really be done to make that cool.

yes i was talking about the rank, or the title that you can get from pvp, and that it would be unfair to people who just go around killing newer players, instead of fighting characters of their level

Many mmos let you learn xp by pvp as well as pve.  I think he was just saying that k/d could factor into that.  I was saying that it should at least be kept track of.

I don't know about that one.  Are you saying I'll have to kill how ever so many players just to level?  if that's what you mean I'll stand against it, cause what if you're a pve kind of guy.  Probably not what you meant. Unless of course we have some kind of rank that is achieved when you get a better k/d ratio.  The rank could allow you into certain areas, wear certain gear and maybe participate in tournaments or even if you're high enough start one with a prize that you set.  It be like a skill but you could level backwards if you're not careful.  Oh ya and k/d dosen't mean crap unless you have a kill count to show for it.  Maybe also a K/d ratio reset could be either purchased with in game money or something, cause whenever I start a game with a k/d ratio for the first time, the time I spend learning causes me to get a really low and hard to recover from k/d ratio.

lol I think I said this idea before.  Too lazy to check.  Oh ya and Ryan feel free to spell check for me.

I think I agree.  At the very least it should be kept track of.